Burbank (BUR) to Seattle (SEA), Jul 20, 2027: round trips from $320, one way from $165

Burbank (BUR) to Seattle (SEA), Jul 20, 2027: round trips from $320, one way from $165 on Axel, checked Nov 15, 2026. Lowest published fares: $320 round trip, Axel-exclusive, Alaska Airlines, nonstop, Jul 20–21, 2027; $165 one way, Axel-exclusive, Alaska Airlines, nonstop, Jul 20, 2027; 1 adult, economy, checked Nov 15, 2026. Flights for 1 adult in economy. Prices are total for all travelers in USD, including required taxes. Basic economy may apply.

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Hotels in Seattle for these trips

Hotels: under a trip, hotels in Seattle for exactly those nights link to the hotel pages for 2 adults in 1 room. When a price is shown, it is the nightly rate and the stay's total, from the lowest saved total among the shortlisted hotels in that star tier for those dates.

• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–21, 2027 · 1 night · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $163 a night · 4★ Hilton Seattle Airport & Conference Center, $198 a night · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $342 a night
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–22, 2027 · 2 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $167 a night, $333 for 2 nights · 4★ Hotel Sorrento, $204 a night, $408 for 2 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $373 a night, $746 for 2 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–23, 2027 · 3 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $166 a night, $499 for 3 nights · 4★ Hilton Seattle Airport & Conference Center, $214 a night, $642 for 3 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $359 a night, $1,076 for 3 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–24, 2027 · 4 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $183 a night, $732 for 4 nights · 4★ Hilton Seattle Airport & Conference Center, $236 a night, $943 for 4 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $356 a night, $1,422 for 4 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–25, 2027 · 5 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Hotel 116, A Coast Hotel Bellevue, $190 a night, $950 for 5 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $242 a night, $1,212 for 5 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $352 a night, $1,758 for 5 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–26, 2027 · 6 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $187 a night, $1,122 for 6 nights · 4★ Hilton Seattle Airport & Conference Center, $228 a night, $1,370 for 6 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $345 a night, $2,067 for 6 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–27, 2027 · 7 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $179 a night, $1,255 for 7 nights · 4★ Hilton Seattle Airport & Conference Center, $218 a night, $1,526 for 7 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $343 a night, $2,403 for 7 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–28, 2027 · 8 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $175 a night, $1,401 for 8 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $228 a night, $1,826 for 8 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $342 a night, $2,739 for 8 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–29, 2027 · 9 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $170 a night, $1,531 for 9 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $230 a night, $2,072 for 9 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $348 a night, $3,130 for 9 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–30, 2027 · 10 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $167 a night, $1,672 for 10 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $232 a night, $2,317 for 10 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $346 a night, $3,463 for 10 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20–31, 2027 · 11 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $167 a night, $1,838 for 11 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $237 a night, $2,612 for 11 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $346 a night, $3,809 for 11 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20 – Aug 1, 2027 · 12 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $168 a night, $2,018 for 12 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $243 a night, $2,919 for 12 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $347 a night, $4,159 for 12 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20 – Aug 2, 2027 · 13 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $162 a night, $2,110 for 13 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $241 a night, $3,130 for 13 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $344 a night, $4,470 for 13 nights
• Hotels in Seattle for these nights (Jul 20 – Aug 3, 2027 · 14 nights · 2 adults, 1 room): 3★ Red Lion Hotel Bellevue, $158 a night, $2,206 for 14 nights · 4★ Graduate by Hilton Seattle, $241 a night, $3,369 for 14 nights · 5★ Fairmont Olympic Hotel, $343 a night, $4,806 for 14 nights

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Route overview: Los Angeles to Seattle (SEA) flight deals

2027-07-20 · one way · Axel-exclusive $165

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 · one way · Axel-exclusive $175

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-21 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS712: SEA 2027-07-21 11:01:00 → BUR 2027-07-21 13:36:00; nonstop; 155 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-21 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-21 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-21 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-21 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-21 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-21 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-21 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-22 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS1388: SEA 2027-07-22 07:06:00 → BUR 2027-07-22 09:45:00; nonstop; 159 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-22 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-22 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-22 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-22 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-22 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-22 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-22 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-23 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS1388: SEA 2027-07-23 07:06:00 → BUR 2027-07-23 09:45:00; nonstop; 159 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-23 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-23 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-23 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-23 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-23 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-23 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-23 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-24 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS1388: SEA 2027-07-24 07:06:00 → BUR 2027-07-24 09:45:00; nonstop; 159 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-24 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-24 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-24 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-24 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-24 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-24 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-24 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-26 · Axel-exclusive $335

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS3087 / AS3415: SEA 2027-07-26 09:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-26 15:56:00; 1 stop(s) via BOI; 366 minutes. Local airport times.
  • AS3087: SEA 2027-07-26 09:50:00 → BOI 2027-07-26 12:21:00; layover at BOI: 137 minutes.
  • AS3415: BOI 2027-07-26 14:38:00 → BUR 2027-07-26 15:56:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-26 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN2179 / WN2701: SEA 2027-07-26 12:35:00 → BUR 2027-07-26 18:15:00; 1 stop(s) via SJC; 340 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN2179: SEA 2027-07-26 12:35:00 → SJC 2027-07-26 14:55:00; layover at SJC: 135 minutes.
  • WN2701: SJC 2027-07-26 17:10:00 → BUR 2027-07-26 18:15:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-27 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS530: SEA 2027-07-27 17:56:00 → BUR 2027-07-27 20:30:00; nonstop; 154 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-27 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-27 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-27 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-27 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-27 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-27 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-27 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-28 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS712: SEA 2027-07-28 11:01:00 → BUR 2027-07-28 13:36:00; nonstop; 155 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-28 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-28 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-28 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-28 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-28 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-28 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-28 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-30 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS1388: SEA 2027-07-30 07:06:00 → BUR 2027-07-30 09:45:00; nonstop; 159 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-30 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-30 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-30 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-30 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-30 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-30 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-30 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-31 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS1388: SEA 2027-07-31 07:06:00 → BUR 2027-07-31 09:45:00; nonstop; 159 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-07-31 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-07-31 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-07-31 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-07-31 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-07-31 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-07-31 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-07-31 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-08-01 · Axel-exclusive $335

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS3087 / AS3415: SEA 2027-08-01 09:50:00 → BUR 2027-08-01 15:56:00; 1 stop(s) via BOI; 366 minutes. Local airport times.
  • AS3087: SEA 2027-08-01 09:50:00 → BOI 2027-08-01 12:21:00; layover at BOI: 137 minutes.
  • AS3415: BOI 2027-08-01 14:38:00 → BUR 2027-08-01 15:56:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-08-01 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-08-01 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-08-01 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-08-01 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-08-01 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-08-01 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-08-01 14:05:00.

2027-07-20 → 2027-08-03 · Axel-exclusive $320

• Alaska Airlines AS491: BUR 2027-07-20 07:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 09:58:00; nonstop; 178 minutes. Local airport times.
• Alaska Airlines AS530: SEA 2027-08-03 17:56:00 → BUR 2027-08-03 20:30:00; nonstop; 154 minutes. Local airport times.

2027-07-20 → 2027-08-03 · Axel-exclusive $340

• Southwest Airlines WN938 / WN4889: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00; 1 stop(s) via SMF; 440 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN938: BUR 2027-07-20 15:00:00 → SMF 2027-07-20 16:25:00; layover at SMF: 230 minutes.
  • WN4889: SMF 2027-07-20 20:15:00 → SEA 2027-07-20 22:20:00.
• Southwest Airlines WN1558 / WN4529: SEA 2027-08-03 07:40:00 → BUR 2027-08-03 14:05:00; 1 stop(s) via LAS; 385 minutes. Local airport times.
  • WN1558: SEA 2027-08-03 07:40:00 → LAS 2027-08-03 10:05:00; layover at LAS: 165 minutes.
  • WN4529: LAS 2027-08-03 12:50:00 → BUR 2027-08-03 14:05:00.

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